romney. what are both camps saying ahead of the final debate, and what do you expect to see on monday? what's the attitude, what's the approach? >> well, alex, by all accounts this last debate is probably the least important because they've had two chances to make this impression and because it's about form policy which isn't what this campaign is primarily about. but that said, this is a very close election. so if one or the other has a very big moment or very bad moment, that could really change things. you don't need to change a whole lot of votes here, assuming there are really some undecided outside there. >> what do you think about that at this point in the race, rachel, what dana is saying it's probably not going to change anyone's minds unless there's a moment. >> unless there's a big gap. you can't really win but you can lose. expect to hear bin laden coming out a lot from president obama's mouth and libya from mitt romney. we did see president obama have a very good moment on libya